dude, http://neography.com/experiment/circles/solarsystem/ <- FF can't handle this page... look at it in any other browser... FF sux dude :/ I already have that svn repo :P what do you mean cant handle it? look at the page.. I am.. then check it out in chrome almost everything on that page is done w/ CSS... I dont have chrome well, hold on, I've got opera so just a sec oh, heh, I had to make _another_ ff profile today LMFAO LMFAO http://chriswalker.devnetonline.net/screencaps/omglolopera.png heheh, yea, FF sux :/ http://chriswalker.devnetonline.net/screencaps/expsite-withff.png does it animate ? uh explain? http://chrome.google.com/ get it .-. lol j00 shall see no explain I dont wanna go download chrome for one simple thing i can't - you have to see whats 'animated'? well, you can use chrome for several other things... !define animated err... damn, there's no bot in here ... lol WHAT is animated not define animated The page * CodeNinja facepalm the stuff moves... WHAT OF THE PAGE like? the solar system? the little thinggies flying around on the page... .. lol are you sure you didnt take anything before going to work today? why are you so adamant against chrome ? because its google. you use google to search do you not? yeah, but I dont want them tracking what I'm doing when I'm not using google to search I blocked analytics and all of their subsites from any pages I visit their browser doesn't track shit when it's not running, I do use wireshark on a regular basis, ya know ? :P yeah... but what about when you're using chrome and not googling ??? hell, for all you know it could be sending it as a request like it would for a header but to google without showing someone .... granted, yes, anywhere could do the same, but google has DATA ISLANDS in the middle of the ocean to store data about searches and analytics, ads, etc fine - load a VM and use chrome godamn, don't you test your stuffz in multiple browsers? when I do design, yes but how often do I really do design? nvm then, you're just going to miss out on the goodies... its ok, 'flying css shit' is just as irritating as 'floating js shit' that people used to put on pages >.> it was kewl ... nice to look at and get to know... ya know? ITS CALLED EXPLORATION!!! =D yes... the fucking ant that followed my cursor and blocked me from clicking on links if I wasnt fast enough was a great addition to a site's functionality